In the later stages of 2015 Innova Discs had a new midrange approved by the PDGA. The Innova Commander is the latest that jumps into their crowded midrange lineup.
The Commander was initially released as a fundraiser for the Nick Hyde Memorial Tournament. A limited number still remain in this initial run. Matt Siri and the folks who run the Nick Hyde Memorial sent us a Commander to check out
Innova says this about the Commander:
The Commander is a large diameter midrange disc with a max weight of 180 grams. It is a stable flyer with a slow fade throughout the flight. The Commander is designed for power players and windy play. Preliminary flight rating is 5, 4, 0, 3.
We’ve taken the Innova Commander out to the course with a few other testers of various skill levels to see how the Commander stacked up against other popular midranges.
The feel of the Commander is a little different, but offers a nice alternative feel when compared to other stable-to-overstable midranges. The nose itself is pretty shallow, but it has a decent shoulder that builds some dome before a flat top at the peak. In the end, it fills your hand nicely, but also provides a different feel than the Roc3, for example. While the Roc3, or any variation of the Roc, is quite popular, some don’t like the overall feel it brings. If you’ve been looking for a beaded midrange that flies in a similar manner to a Roc, but feels different, this could be an option.
After all of our tests, three factors in the flight of the Commander jumped out. First, let’s start with the speed. It is on the faster side of the midrange spectrum and likes the added power you can put behind it. Yes, you still have a lot of control, but it will be a touch faster.
Now, while it is a little faster, we also noticed a slight lack of glide. Even with a slightly domey top, it surprised us a little bit with the lack of glide. It seemed to lean more on speed than glide to carry down the fairway. This was also apparent at the end of the flight when a moderate-to-strong fade would kick in, but it wouldn’t carry too far to the left just due to the the glide. Instead of hanging in the air and kicking left, it would start to drop as it lost power. There was still movement to the left, but nothing too dramatic.
Finally, the high speed stability shined on this disc. Give. It. Power. We could really lean into the Commander with confidence. With a flat release and a lot of power behind it, the Commander flies flat and straight without wanting to show any movement to the right.
With the combination of speed, lack of glide, and high speed stability, you have a midrange that power throwers should love. Those with a 350-400 foot max distance should be able to grab the Commander and throw it with a strong effort and have the confidence to know it won’t glide out too far on you and you’ll also have quite a bit of control over the final placement.
Since it won’t turn on you and the lack of glide helps it drop out at the end of the flight, you can really do quite a bit with it. You could even produce some relatively straight shots from start to finish with just a hint of anhyzer off the tee or you can power down your throw and see similar results.
If thrown with a little anhyzer, it will slowly flex out of it before a very small fade. Regardless of the amount of anhyzer you use, remember it will really lean on the power you put behind it and not the glide.
As for drives with a little less power, or even approach shots for that matter, the Commander became a nice placement midrange. On some midranges you’ll take some power off of it and see the glide take over and carry forward. With the Commander, we took a little power off of it, saw plenty of high speed stability and a flight, that in a sense, had very little fade. Since it didn’t hang in the air long enough to really kick hard left, it would drop pretty quickly and hit the ground faster than expected. This was very useful on approach shots where a putter wasn’t enough, and we needed something with a little stability and added speed. Trust the Commander a bit and you can let it nest right up near the pin.
Overall, we’d rate the Innova Commander at 5, 3, 0, 3. This is slightly different than Innova’s initial numbers which bump the glide rating to a 4.
The flight chart from inbounds Disc Golf shows a flight close to what we were seeing. The fade will be there if you give it some height, but don’t count on much on a typical throw. It won’t carry too much with the lack of glide, but the high speed stability will certainly be there.
If you’ve been looking for another stable-to-overstable midrange that offers higher control than normal due to a little less glide, the Innova Commander could be worth a look. With a different feel than the Roc and a shallow profile before leading into a moderate dome the Commander brings an alternative option to many who don’t like the Roc, or any beaded midrange for that matter.
While it was initially released as a fundraiser for the Nick Hyde Memorial tournament you still have a chance to pick up a Star Commander while they are still available in limited quantities.
Win your own Innova Commander
We have an extra Innova Commander and we’ll throw in the disc we used in our reviews for our latest giveaway! We’ll take entries through Sunday, February 7 at 11:59 p.m. There are three ways to enter:
- Leave a comment on this post using the form below. Be sure to use a valid email so we can contact you if you are the winner. Comments are moderated on a regular basis. Don’t worry if they don’t show up right away.
- Like the ATDG and Innova Discs Facebook page and leave a comment on the ATDG post first announcing this giveaway.
- Follow @ATDiscGolf and @InnovaDiscs on Twitter and tweet the following message:
The @InnovaDiscs Commander looks to take control of your bag and you can win one from @ATDiscGolf http://is.gd/ATDG_Commander #DiscGolf
We’ll randomly select one winner from all social media entries and one winner from the comments below. Thanks to everyone involved for the giveaway!
I am interested in trying the Commander out since it holds up to a powerful throw. One issue I have with other midranges is the fact that they are easy to turn over.
Sounds like a souped up Jokeri. I like it.
I’d really like to try it out.
Would love to put this in my bag ! Especially when u mentioned using it for long putts . I’m looking for something stable for that In between midrange and longer putt .
Yes plz this will help a lot in my bag.
Great review! This would fit quite nicely in my bag. Keep up the fantastic reviews!! Cheers!
This looks awesome. I thought it was a Hyzerbomb release when I saw the name and the Nick Hyde Memorial stamp!
I’ve been thinking thinking about getting a Buzzz OS. Maybe I’ll win this in stead. : -)
Looks like a very interesting disc. I will have to try it out!
I’d love to win a Commander. Right now, my only midrange is a Roc, so I would love to add this option to my bag.
I would love to check one out! Looks great!
I could definitely use one Thanks!
Great review guys! Definitely want to pick one of these up now!
I’ve been jonesing way too hard for this disc. It’s ridiculous. Your review only made me want it more because it’s exactly what I imagined it would be. Really hope I win!
Sounds like a good option to try
Playing on the open fields of the Midwest, finding something to rely on in the wind is a must. Thanks for the review.
I’m always looking for a good midrange. This one sounds like it could fit nicely into my bag.
I really need an overstable mid.
I’ve been looking for a roc type of shot and haven’t enjoyed the roc very much. I think this may be my answer.
I need an overstable midrange in my bag
Sounds like another great mid from Innova. Thanks for having the giveaway. Love your reviews.
Sounds Awesome! Can’t wait to get my hands on one!
Awesome review of the Commander! Would love to win one and try it out for myself! Thanks for the great review!
I’ve been searching for the perfect mid-range and can’t seem to find the right one for me. This might be it.
Sounds like a disc between a roc3 and a gator? Also, you mentioned that it feels different from a roc3, but how specifically? Shallower? Smaller bead?
Sounds like a good midrange. I’m still in the hunt for a midrange that I can throw forehand – they”re hard to find.
I would love to try out the Commander. On my home course the average hole is 280-300 feet and a strong midrange that can handle some heat is ideal for most holes.
I love my innova discs. And I would love to try out the newest disc. However being in Canada it is sometimes hard to get your hands on the good stuff
Sounds like a useful disc.
Sounds like a solid mid! Thanks for posting all the reviews!
I love my gator, this sounds like it will be a keeper too.
Heck yesssssss I would love to chuck this disc!!! Thank you for the opportunity!!!!
Im a big fan of the Coyote…sounds about the same with less glide.
Yes! I’ve been looking for an alternative to the Roc3, something as stable but with a better feel in the hand. Great review guys.
Looks awesome can’t wait to try one!
Interesting, very interesting
Would love to try this sweet sounding midrange.
I don’t have a strong arm…so I’m curious…
Thanks for all the reviews you guys do and the work promoting the sport. I would love to try this disc out for sure. Thanks guys!
This commander looks like it’s gonna be a lot of fun, can’t wait to have one in my bag!
I’d like to try it for my forehand approaches
Interested in trying one.
This sounds like a perfect complement to the Atlas I love!
This would be a perfect fit to my bag. Can’t wait to try one for myself
i hope to win cuz this would fit right in my bag
Curious too see how this stacks up against a verdict.